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Finally a mouse for my 23x11.5 hands😂
I tried the 1k version of the Darmoshark M3. Decent mouse but personally too large for me. Looking forward to checking out its little brother, the Varun and been meaning to pick up the Castor! Nice Pegasus too 🔥
i have two pegasus :) on has omrons ;)
what about sensor latency? In my opinion this is much more important than click latency. I know its harder to get reliable results than with click latency, but really even looking at slow mo deathmatch footage from cs:go, even those faster flicks when the click happens in the middle of the mouse movement, it's still a matter of a couple of frames out of 60, so definitely much higher than 1-5ms click latency differences. And at least in cs:go, such described situations happen very rarely compared to usual aiming situations. I can set debounce to 10ms lets say in lamzu 4k and i wouldn't probably ever tell the difference in click latency, but on the contrary i can feel the sensor responsiveness difference quite easily between let's say starlight tenz and that lamzu 4k and this is probably like 3ms of difference in half movement latency. I think reviewers should focus heavily on sensor latency. And click latency with those newer tech mice is almost omitable.
With that being said, those click latency results are actually very impressive
Hey there, I understand your point completely. I haven't conducted a test to measure or compare sensor latency, and I believe it's more than just measuring the time it takes (in milliseconds) for physical movement to translate into cursor movement on the screen. In many cases, it's influenced by factors like Vaxee's 1kHz "comp" mode or Vancer's so-called "god mode." You might argue that the sensor latency is significantly lower in these cases, but I believe the latency of the sensor itself remains the same. The only things that have changed are the parameters the sensor operates within, primarily noticeable in power consumption. A mouse operating at 4kHz would draw around 60mA or 65mA, but none of the mice you mentioned or featured in the video achieve this. Why? Because you can't market a 60g mouse with only six hours of battery life.
Furthermore, I haven't focused on click latency in my demonstration. The click latency on these mice is much lower, probably around 0.3 to 0.5ms. I showcase the overall behavior of the mouse in a running system, which is why the graph displays end-to-end latency and includes the system specifications. It's important to me to illustrate how mice behave, such as the HTS+ 4k having a higher standard deviation due to its immediate "energy savings" features. With every initial click, you wake up the mouse, and if you're holding it at an angle while the mouse is in "savings mode" due to low IPS (150 on HP mode at 3395, sourced from the Pixart datasheet for the sensor), it's not very "tracking needy." As a result, the mouse enters savings mode relatively early.
Overall, you're absolutely right that sensor latency is crucial in competitive gaming. However, have you compared the sensor feeling of your previous-generation G Pro Superlight with the Lamzu 4k? Are you using Windows 11 with mouse fix? Have you disabled your C states? What about your USB controller? There are many additional factors to consider.
The end-to-end latency serves as a rough comparative indicator for the responsiveness of the mouse itself, not just for clicks but for the entire mouse, dongle, and cable setup. That's why I test them, both wired and wireless. I have an archive with control units and a base where the system is set up for every test. And my background is more technical and base on my work as developer and engenier then on some yt reviews or other stuff like this.
Great, thanks for the review, will wait for the review on the Darmoshark M3s Mini. Think that will be more suited for me :D
will not review it. It does not have the nordic so im not intrested. I will go with the LA1 insteat
Is this the best finalmouse large clone you think?
Very nice, any issues shipping to the United States or working in North America? Is there any issues running 4k polling? Onboard memory? What kind of skates does it take?
hey :) I think lethal will sell them. 4k no issues, and a hugh plus is that u can disable motion sync which is needed for apex and cs:go . skares are pdtf and the skates apllied are new once not like the once on the m3, but as much as i can see the replacment skates in the box are the old once. And there are also additional dots in the box
@@TheWhale030 i wish they would i want to buy from a USA distributor if possible
How do you like the coating? Do you know what MCU it is using? Thanks.
nordic mcu, coating is very good. Not the best on the world but has a solid egg shell feeling
@@TheWhale030 thanks
Have you had a chance to try the Dragonfly F1 yet?
nope and I will not try them. I wait for the brand to be sold end of the year or somehow next year and the i check the new products
My mice don't show up on software. ı even updated firmware. Do you know any solution to this?
m3 4k software not m3 software
where to get firmware
hey bro same problem here seems like Darmoshark website link only has Firmware for download but no link to Software. Have you had any luck finding it?@@johnathanblow2025